Spurs-Magic

[San Antonio Spurs (Chris)]

San Antonio Spurs receive:
Jonas Valanciunas, TOR:  $15,460,674 (17/18) - $16,539,326 (18/19) - $17,617,978 (19/20 PO)
Cameron Payne, CHI:  $2,203,440 (17/18) - $3,263,295 (18/19 TO) - $4,539,243 (19/20 QO)


Orlando Magic receive:
San Antonio Spurs' 2017 1st round draft pick (#24)
San Antonio Spurs' 2018 1st round draft pick
San Antonio Spurs' 2017 2nd round draft pick (#54)
San Antonio Spurs' 2018 2nd round draft pick


I accept.  This is a lot to pay for these two, especially since I've done quite well with late picks in the past, and I know these things... but the data sources I always relied on for college/overseas players coming to the NBA are now gone, I find that I don't have much faith in picking someone I can trust to develop this late in the draft without them, and I see the 2nd rounders as mostly worthless anyway.  Plus I pretty much always prefer proven production over the gamble of someone who could/should turn into a good player.

JV was pretty disappointing last year, and I don't much care for his contract, but he's still a starting C with a reliable role, he's still young, there's a reason TOR paid him like that, and I still like him; besides, 25 FPPG in a down year is nothing to sneeze at.  CHI is a fucking mess right now, especially at PG, but I can't imagine them entering the season with the roster structured as it currently is, and even if they do...  MCW and Canaan are trash, Lavine is not really a PG and will probably play 2, Grant is very limited and not a legit starting PG in the NBA, Rondo is Rondo, and I still think Dunn is vastly overrated.  So, whether some more trades happen or not,  I have faith that Payne's ability will eventually make him stand out.  If not, maybe I'll be able to move him to my d-league roster at some point; lot of unforeseeable variables there but I love the kid's game, always have, and I'm happy to get him.

[Orlando Magic (Perry)]

Accept.

Pretty much everything Spurs wrote is similar to how I feel about both of them. I'm just not going to risk it again with both of those and have their values go completely in the toilet. Maybe JV never really makes it, and he's a career 25 FPPG kinda guy, and maybe Payne is completely ass. Already have a bunch of centers especially after drafting Patton, and now the cap space allows me to get a young free agent point guard if I can.

Good dealing Spurs, thanks for staying patient

[Grizzlies GM (Royce)]

Pretty interesting deal here. Not sure about Jonas Val having a reliable role, to me it seems like his role fluctuates game to game. Also seems like he could be dealt, but wherever he goes he's going to be a starting center. Definitely worth the price being paid here.

Approve (1-0)

[Chicago Bulls (Charlie)]

Dont get deals like this Jonas Val and Payne are way more talented than whoever ur going to find in the mid to late 20's unless you get some dumb luck. 2nds are 2nds, spurs wins vastly.

apv

[Golden State Warriors (Caleb)]

Approve.

Makes sense for both teams and the directions they're moving in.

[New York Knicks (Tyler)]

Pass. Im big on jonas so i love this for spurs

[Yacob (freelance idiot)]

Pass