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Post by Indiana Pacers (Jon) on May 28, 2022 10:42:23 GMT -5
Pacers send: C Andre Drummond, PHI 25.86 25.86 25.86 UFA PF Jonathan Isaac, ORL 16.88 16.88 16.88 16.88 UFA C Zach Collins, SAS 8.69 8.69 8.69 8.69 UFA (3.69M paid this year, 1.5M next year) - Paid by Pacers C Daniel Gafford, WAS 1.93 UFA 20222 CHA 1st (#8)
Pacers receive: SG James Harden, HOU 30.18 30.18 UFA (3M paid this year, 1.5M next year) - Paid by Hawks
Hawks send: SG James Harden, HOU 30.18 30.18 UFA (3M paid this year, 1.5M next year) - Paid by Hawks
Hawks receive: C Andre Drummond, PHI 25.86 25.86 25.86 UFA PF Jonathan Isaac, ORL 16.88 16.88 16.88 16.88 UFA 2023 DAL 1st 2022 CHA 1st (#8)
Thunder send: 2023 DAL 1st
Thunder receive: C Zach Collins, SAS 8.69 8.69 8.69 8.69 UFA (3.69M paid this year, 1.5M next year) - Paid by Pacers C Daniel Gafford, WAS 1.93 UFA
Slamosaurus Rex!
Pacers accept. Pretty excited to see how Harden performs next year with Philly, seemed like a floor year for him last year and he still averaged well above 40 fpg. Hate to lose the upside of JI but the injury concerns and ORL being front court loaded is definitely a cause for concern. #8 is also hard to give up in this trade but getting rid of Drummond's contract is certainly a plus. All in all, Pacers are in for a retool rather than a rebuild now. Zion, Harden, Alpy, and #5 should be fun - Let's go!
S/o Lor for taking the 3.69M for his Gonzaga big. Have fun with Gafford, hopefully the Wizards actually play him and cut TB.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks (Trey) on May 28, 2022 10:49:09 GMT -5
Hawks accept, lots of risk but also tons of upside and potential to build around. Isaac has show potential of being a difference maker in this league and nearly a 30 a game guy. Now 2 years removed from him playing ball who knows where he’ll slot back in but his length and athleticism can’t be denied and he’s still only 24. 8th pick in a solid draft gives me an opportunity to try and grab another difference maker and a Dallas pick to help my 23 draft capital really helps spread out the assets. Good dealing buddy!
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder (Loren) on May 28, 2022 10:58:59 GMT -5
I accept. Seems like a no brainer for me here. Traded #25 for this 1st and a 2nd (thanks kev!) and got to flip that projected late first (s/o pickasso, you’re ass tho) for a great per/min guy in Gafford and get my Gonzaga big locked up.
I do believe it’s actually less than $1.5M next year, I’ll take whatever 15% of $8.69M is tho. If I need to cut anyone I’ll cut JTA but I think I’m fine.
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Post by New York Knicks (jsood) on May 28, 2022 11:03:39 GMT -5
LOL Approve. No wonder Lor was so ready to send half his depth for Joel. He does awesome here to get 2 20 a game depth pieces for just a late first.
Getting to the main part of the deal though. I think I prefer I Pacers side here. Harden will be a top 10-15 scorer in here for at least 3-4 years and Jon Isaacs future is about as murky as a future could be. Even if he comes back and contributes somewhere I don't see him making a huge fantasy impact anytime soon. Hopefully Trey is able to secure a franchise cornerstone with pick 8. Either way, he sets himself up nicely now to #TankForVictor.
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Post by Blazers GM (Tyler) on May 28, 2022 12:58:41 GMT -5
Approve.
Wow! I love this 3-teamer and think it makes sense for all parties involved. Jonathan Isaac is the clear swing piece for the Hawks--if he comes back to form (whether it be with Orlando or another team), this deal could look REAL nice for Trey down the road. If JI flames out, this basically turns into 1 lottery first and 1 late first for ~40/fppg James Harden.
IMO this is a nice start to the rebuild for Trey--needs to snag a few more young pieces in the coming months.
Cheeky play by Thunder to move a potential late first for some depth pieces.
From Pacers viewpoint, the time is here! Tank commander no longer! Still think Harden has minimum 2-3 years of high level production. If Zion comes back healthy this squad could be nastyyy.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs (Chris) on May 29, 2022 12:20:34 GMT -5
Pass. Like it for pacers, love it for thunder (sneaky get on Collins, needs to improve on understanding and playing within the Spurs' defense, but if he can do that and stay healthy he's got a nice opportunity to produce), high risk/reward for Hawks, don't like it for him because now he's stuck with that shit Drummond contract, but even so, if Isaac plays like he did two years ago... That plus two firsts is pretty solid for an aging Harden. Especially if the league continues tweaking how fouls are called, disproportionate amount of harden's value lies in his FT volume at such a high percentage, he took a big hit there last year because of adjustments by the league, and what I've read suggests that was (and remains) the league's goal; too many free throw trips slows the game down too much, and the main reason NBA has done so well the last ten years is because they've done all they can to eliminate that slowing the game down stuff, no reason why they'd stop now. Don't get me wrong, Harden is a stud either way, but I think lots of folks underestimate how much of his fantasy performance came from FT.
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